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the others charged here in california. it was based on a sting operation involving a confidential informant. f.b.i. joint terrorist task force in southern california. these folks were going to target practice. they were going to paint ball practice. they were talking about whether their interests in suicide bombing was c-4 or on the line as a sniper. and how much money they had to get to get to afghanistan. they were shaving their heads and taking off their beards and/or mustaches to be clean cut so they didn't arouse suspicion. based on the complaint of the f.b.i. and a 77-page affidavit, this was a full-blown effort conspiring to go to afghanistan to kill americans and others and blow up american facilities. >> brian: police see khalid sheikh mohammed in jail, they think we're out of the woods. but the spirit and the mantra and the doctrine is what we got to worry about. >> the spirit and the doctrine and mantra is something we should worry about and obviously to declare that the war on al-qaeda is over before it's over
the others charged here in california. it was based on a sting operation involving a confidential informant. f.b.i. joint terrorist task force in southern california. these folks were going to target practice. they were going to paint ball practice. they were talking about whether their interests in suicide bombing was c-4 or on the line as a sniper. and how much money they had to get to get to afghanistan. they were shaving their heads and taking off their beards and/or mustaches to be clean...
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look at california. >> california is where we are -- california is almost a microcosm to where the country is headed. virtually they are volume canized out there. there is a bunch of different states. the rich live in a few places and the rest of the state is dying. it's a shame, actually. new york times editorial. message to sacramento, tax but don't over spend. you see folks in return for backing proposition 30 voters expect an end to the fiscal shenanigans that sent the state careens from one budget crisis to another. california has a 600 billion state debt. a projected $16 billion deficit. lack what happened? you voted tax increases on yourself and the problem solved. >>> just to give you an idea how much tax california has already paid the national average rate for state and local taxes is 9.8 percent. in california it's 11.8 percent. another big talker this morning the news that iran fired on the u.s. drone over the persian gulf last week, the timing being released raising questions about whether the administration purposely held it until after the election? michelle mal pin saws it'
look at california. >> california is where we are -- california is almost a microcosm to where the country is headed. virtually they are volume canized out there. there is a bunch of different states. the rich live in a few places and the rest of the state is dying. it's a shame, actually. new york times editorial. message to sacramento, tax but don't over spend. you see folks in return for backing proposition 30 voters expect an end to the fiscal shenanigans that sent the state careens...
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he wound up other banks in california and washington. earlier this year, an officer was shot and seriously injured in one of the robberies. $70,000 reward. that seems low, to be honest -- is being offered. stop him. he's wearing jeans. >> steve: he forced an airplane to make an emergency landing after going on a rant about terrorists mid flight. today that jetblue pilot may be set free. remember this? >> steve: that would be disturbing if you were on that flight. that's former pilot clayton osborne during his meltdown on a flight from new york to las vegas in march. he was arrested when the plane touched down in texas. he was found not guilty of interfering with crew members by reason of insanity. today a judge will decide if he can go free or if he will be committed to a mental facility. stand by for news. >> alisyn: how do you like the ring of this name? senator ashley judd. being named as a possible challenger for mitch mcdonnel. democrats see his seat vulnerable because he was elected in a close race. judd has said in the past that s
he wound up other banks in california and washington. earlier this year, an officer was shot and seriously injured in one of the robberies. $70,000 reward. that seems low, to be honest -- is being offered. stop him. he's wearing jeans. >> steve: he forced an airplane to make an emergency landing after going on a rant about terrorists mid flight. today that jetblue pilot may be set free. remember this? >> steve: that would be disturbing if you were on that flight. that's former pilot...
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>> until i took my show on fox business out to california, to l.a. >> steve: a week or two ago? >> yeah. and she came in and confronted me and she grabbed me and -- it was scary. i was the kid that she threw down the stairs or out of the car. >> steve: you were having a flashback to your childhood that my mother is at me again. >> yeah. yeah. and it was just a couple minutes before the show. but luckily she sort of left as quickly as she came. >> gretchen: why was this so important for you to write? you're happily married. you have two beautiful sons. what was the reason? was it cathartic? >> it was really that since people have read it, they come up to me and they say, i had the same experience, but then when they tell me about it, it's actually completely different. and what they're relating to is the idea that you can have a typical childhood, a tremendous hurdle in your past and you can decide, i woke up one day and i just said, i'm going to have a different life. i'm going to break this cycle. i'm not going to do this anymore. and i started a new day where i had a family of
>> until i took my show on fox business out to california, to l.a. >> steve: a week or two ago? >> yeah. and she came in and confronted me and she grabbed me and -- it was scary. i was the kid that she threw down the stairs or out of the car. >> steve: you were having a flashback to your childhood that my mother is at me again. >> yeah. yeah. and it was just a couple minutes before the show. but luckily she sort of left as quickly as she came. >> gretchen:...
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so look, this is a page out of the playbook in california. that is using students, both k through 12 and college students as human shields to get tax increases. what we need to do on our side for those of us who are fiscal conservatives, is really convince voters, connect the dots that the higher taxes are going to result in much higher unemployment. we saw a modest decrease in unemployment. we're now down to 10.1. but that's still way above the national average. the big story in california is the part-time employment. >> steve: i get why the students voted for it, 'cause they got some stuff. and we all love free stuff. john, you say california really a ticking time bomb. we're short on time. you still have $200 billion of pension unfunded liabilities out there. >> yes. unfunded pension liabilities and total debt, including general obligation, bonds, revenue bonds, about a trillion dollars. i mean, that's like a federal number. that's loft zeros. so california is still in a world of hurt economically and we're hopeful that people will wake up
so look, this is a page out of the playbook in california. that is using students, both k through 12 and college students as human shields to get tax increases. what we need to do on our side for those of us who are fiscal conservatives, is really convince voters, connect the dots that the higher taxes are going to result in much higher unemployment. we saw a modest decrease in unemployment. we're now down to 10.1. but that's still way above the national average. the big story in california is...
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but i do sit on the stem cell board in california where we are funding exciting innovative research, as are many other places. and i think there are a lot of hopeful things. >> steve: if people would like more information, they can go to alzheimer'sdisease disease. >> gretchen: the battle over wisconsin's collective bargaining ban is far from overment the state facing another lawsuit. governor scott walker will join us next until first, let's check in with martha mccallum who seems like. we've never actually met. she's going to tell us what's on at the top of the hour. >> except every wednesday when we sit in your radio studio. good morning. so wow. a huge number. the unemployment claims this week, how will that number be explained by the administration? stuart varney is here on that. former attorney general alberto gonzalez on how it could be that the president would not know about the petraeus investigation, members of his administration knew in july. what we need to know about eric holder's role. we will see you in "america's newsroom" at the top of the hour >> gretchen: fox busin
but i do sit on the stem cell board in california where we are funding exciting innovative research, as are many other places. and i think there are a lot of hopeful things. >> steve: if people would like more information, they can go to alzheimer'sdisease disease. >> gretchen: the battle over wisconsin's collective bargaining ban is far from overment the state facing another lawsuit. governor scott walker will join us next until first, let's check in with martha mccallum who seems...
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. >> in california, california veterans erecting a war memorial cross in the mojave desert. after a lengthy legal battle it was reinstalled and dedicated yesterday. that has been a long battle. that is your 5@5:00. >>> it is time for your first degree weather update maria molina. how is it looking? >> good morning everyone. we have a strong cold front we are tracking today. we have been tracking it over the weekend because this is a significant and pretty strong storm system that has a lot of snow with it and also severe weather associated with it t. it is 20 degrees in minneapolis. only 13 in rapid city. 23 in denver. that air is going to spread eastward the next couple days. it will be very persistent. 71 in new orleans and 62 doeges in cleave rand. cold day in minneapolis 20 degrees. temperatures making it into the 70s in atlanta. showers and thunderstorms rolling on through. some of that rain will be ending on the backside of this system but not looking at any significant accumulations. >> maria thank you so much. 50 years not 30 since the vietnam war. >>> stories you ca
. >> in california, california veterans erecting a war memorial cross in the mojave desert. after a lengthy legal battle it was reinstalled and dedicated yesterday. that has been a long battle. that is your 5@5:00. >>> it is time for your first degree weather update maria molina. how is it looking? >> good morning everyone. we have a strong cold front we are tracking today. we have been tracking it over the weekend because this is a significant and pretty strong storm...
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why is prop 33 good for active military folks in california? >> well, here in california, we have what is call would a persistency discount. if you have a autoinsurance with a carrier for a long period of time you get a discount. if that coverage lapses, you lose the discount and it is not portable and you can't take to other companies. if you are in the military and don't need a car in afghanistan, you come back to california, you have lost that discount. prop 33 was written by an army major in large part to help the military by insuring that one, if you are in the military and deploy over seas, you don't lose persistency discount. >> if i miss a payment and deployed over seas, the policy will not be cancel would and i will not lose the discount, that is the point. >> the policy will not be cancelled and you will not lose the discount. it doesn't only benefit the military but we are in tough economic times and you can miss up to three payments because of the economy and still not lose the persistency discount and if you lose your job or laid o
why is prop 33 good for active military folks in california? >> well, here in california, we have what is call would a persistency discount. if you have a autoinsurance with a carrier for a long period of time you get a discount. if that coverage lapses, you lose the discount and it is not portable and you can't take to other companies. if you are in the military and don't need a car in afghanistan, you come back to california, you have lost that discount. prop 33 was written by an army...
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this happened near sacramento, california. the pilot was testing a new engine in the plane when it lost power and left him no choice but to find somewhere to land safely. >> luckily the plane lands at about freeway speed. >> good thing no one was hurt in that. officials believe the fuel pump failed. >>> the hits keep on coming for disgraced cyclist lance armstrong. the foundation he founded to fight cancer dropping his name. the lance armstrong foundation will now be called the live strong foundation. armstrong resigned as chairman and quit from the board of directors earlier this week. >>> chicago mayor rahm emanuel is taking lessons from new york city's nanny there mike bloomberg. he is cracking down on calories. he wants to get rid of all of the chips, the chocolate and the soda sold in vending machines. by next year he plans to replace all of the machines with healthier options. that is your 5@5:30. >> that's a lot of workers not too happy about that. >> probably not. >> president obama for the first time in 8 months defen
this happened near sacramento, california. the pilot was testing a new engine in the plane when it lost power and left him no choice but to find somewhere to land safely. >> luckily the plane lands at about freeway speed. >> good thing no one was hurt in that. officials believe the fuel pump failed. >>> the hits keep on coming for disgraced cyclist lance armstrong. the foundation he founded to fight cancer dropping his name. the lance armstrong foundation will now be called...
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came to california where he visited, thought things would be better. and he went from restaurant to restaurant to get a job and told, i'm sorry, sir, you have no references. he worked two full-time jobs as a janitor because and he my mom believed it was important for her to stay at home while he raised three boys. they did so on my dad's income as a janitor and then he saved up money to start a cafe. that's when we had a fight. my brothers and used to work for him. >> gretchen: the message you want to give to people is if they grow up in a similar situation, what should they take away from this? >> first of all, be appreciative that off father in your life, even if he's a difficult junkyard dog like my dad. second of all, it's never too late to sit down with your relatives. my female friends told me they had difficult relationships with their fathers and one time they sat down and worked it out. the message is, sit down. don't assume dad thinks something else. don't waste those years. when i've told this to people and they read the book, people have re
came to california where he visited, thought things would be better. and he went from restaurant to restaurant to get a job and told, i'm sorry, sir, you have no references. he worked two full-time jobs as a janitor because and he my mom believed it was important for her to stay at home while he raised three boys. they did so on my dad's income as a janitor and then he saved up money to start a cafe. that's when we had a fight. my brothers and used to work for him. >> gretchen: the...
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. >> things like this happen in missouri, they happen in california, they don't happen here. this is terrible. >> fortunately right now there are only reports of a few minor injuries. >>> the african mill te-- afgha military will not be able to operate on their own after troops withdraw in 2014. that's according to a new report for special inspector general in afghanistan. the reason they have filled more than 40 percent of the positions and there are not enough people with technical skills to operate the facilities. >> a derailed train goes up in flames leaving three workers badly burned and fighting for their lives. this happened in louisville, kentucky yesterday. firefighters were trying to separate two rail cars that derailed actually on monday night. the cars were carrying hazardous chemicals. hundreds of people were forced to leave their homes. one of the workers is very critical. the other critical. the third in serious condition. >>> the aftermath of sandy forcing governor chris christie to postpone halloween until monday. they are concerned about kids walking toward
. >> things like this happen in missouri, they happen in california, they don't happen here. this is terrible. >> fortunately right now there are only reports of a few minor injuries. >>> the african mill te-- afgha military will not be able to operate on their own after troops withdraw in 2014. that's according to a new report for special inspector general in afghanistan. the reason they have filled more than 40 percent of the positions and there are not enough people with...
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it was bought in california . the winner is just coming forward. she forgot about the ticket and it was sitting in the glove compartment for the whole time. next the bad. turning out that math can hurt you. i i agree with that one. finding that people experience physical pain from thinking about math. there is no pain from doing math, but just worrying about it . finally the ugly game turns into a boxing match. one of the teams goalies was hit in the mouth. >> they said they was a time-out. time to get scrambled up. bowling is here to help us out. i was thinking mus-- mousestatch. >> eric: country. >> they always help out. >> it is always gretchen . have a great show and enjoy your weekend.
it was bought in california . the winner is just coming forward. she forgot about the ticket and it was sitting in the glove compartment for the whole time. next the bad. turning out that math can hurt you. i i agree with that one. finding that people experience physical pain from thinking about math. there is no pain from doing math, but just worrying about it . finally the ugly game turns into a boxing match. one of the teams goalies was hit in the mouth. >> they said they was a...
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california looking good. across portions of the pacific northwest, been dealing with a lot of heavy rain. we'd break yesterday. we've got dry weather. but the rain is back in seattle. clouds, high temperature will be at 50 degrees out there. a look at the showers across basically that frontal boundary from the great lakes through parts of arkansas. snow on the back end of the system. accumulations between one to three inches of snow. so very light stuff. some spots could pick up more. up to six inches locally. especially across portions of basically northern wisconsin, into portions of michigan. otherwise out west, nothing going on in the rockies. lot of sunshine. beautiful weather. seattle dealing with that rainfall already right now. a look at those winter storm warnings in effect across northern portions of wisconsin and also portions up upper great lakes. tomorrow, the cold air heads eastbound. 43 degrees. it's going to start to feel like winter. >> oh. >> if you play some ball this morning, you'll surviv
california looking good. across portions of the pacific northwest, been dealing with a lot of heavy rain. we'd break yesterday. we've got dry weather. but the rain is back in seattle. clouds, high temperature will be at 50 degrees out there. a look at the showers across basically that frontal boundary from the great lakes through parts of arkansas. snow on the back end of the system. accumulations between one to three inches of snow. so very light stuff. some spots could pick up more. up to six...
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one california-based educator is claiming student to student massages can reduce or prevent bullying. is that a good idea? let's ask amber winkler, at the think tank. she's also a former high school teacher. i'm trying to wrap my head around this, amber, because first of all, kids are sort of taught at school to keep their hands off of each other. >> yes. exactly. >> gretchen: so what's up with the theory? >> yeah. so the theory is bunk. i think it's absurd. there is no research that says massage is going to decrease bullying. it's absolutely insane. i was a teacher myself. you spend half the day telling kids to keep their hands off one another. you definitely don't want to invite them to touch each other. besides that, it sounds like a recipe for lawsuits, sexual harassment, abuse cases, you name it. we live in ally to my knowledgeious society. this is opening up a big can of worms. >> gretchen: besides the fact that would it even work? mirror is the statement from the person behind it. peer massage is a way students can learn to give and receive nurturing touch, the kind of touch th
one california-based educator is claiming student to student massages can reduce or prevent bullying. is that a good idea? let's ask amber winkler, at the think tank. she's also a former high school teacher. i'm trying to wrap my head around this, amber, because first of all, kids are sort of taught at school to keep their hands off of each other. >> yes. exactly. >> gretchen: so what's up with the theory? >> yeah. so the theory is bunk. i think it's absurd. there is no...
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california congresswoman lost her position, speaker of the house, in 2010, when republicans took control. those are your headlines. that would be a surprise move. you would have to wonder why she would want to. >> brian: she surprised us last time when she stuck around. >> steve: because she felt that they would regain the power and she would be speaker again. but now she would have to wait at least two more years. >> brian: greg norman weighed in on my golf spring on my swing with nick faldo. >> gretchen: is it like what ernie else said. >> steve: what's new year's without your favorite champagne? you may soon find out. oh, oh a bubble shortage? >> gretchen: obamacare is becoming a reality. is it hurting the people it's supposed to help? stuart varney here on that topic next [ female announcer ] introducing u the latest coffee machine from nespresso. modular. intuitive. combines espresso and fresh milk. the new u. nespresso. what else? available at these fine retailers. nespresso. what else? you can't argue with nutrition you can see. great grains. great grains cereal starts whole and s
california congresswoman lost her position, speaker of the house, in 2010, when republicans took control. those are your headlines. that would be a surprise move. you would have to wonder why she would want to. >> brian: she surprised us last time when she stuck around. >> steve: because she felt that they would regain the power and she would be speaker again. but now she would have to wait at least two more years. >> brian: greg norman weighed in on my golf spring on my swing...
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southern california will dry out. san francisco will dry out. northern california, oregon and washington will see the majority of the precipitation but it's a lot. some spots picking up 10 inches of rain in the coastal range so there will be weather. your forecast for the day today, very nice across the northeast. we've got plenty of sunshine. a repeat of what you saw yesterday so if you liked yesterday, you'll like today. the southeast, same story, comfortable temperatures, the rain in florida yesterday will be across the carolinas. minor beach erosion, rough surf. in the northern plains, a mild one. temps around 15 to 20 degrees above where you should be to comfortable. across the west continuing to be unsettled with the rain and mountain snow. move that map one more. mountain snow, especially in across areas of the north. we'll send it over to you with thanksgiving. turkey looks great but cold. >> i'll try to get this segment. we're shivering. everything loves turkey on thanksgiving but i bet you'll love it even more, especially you men, when
southern california will dry out. san francisco will dry out. northern california, oregon and washington will see the majority of the precipitation but it's a lot. some spots picking up 10 inches of rain in the coastal range so there will be weather. your forecast for the day today, very nice across the northeast. we've got plenty of sunshine. a repeat of what you saw yesterday so if you liked yesterday, you'll like today. the southeast, same story, comfortable temperatures, the rain in florida...
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little too warm for this time of year. 91 for your high in phoenix and widespread 80s across southern california. >> steve: great. >> gretchen: thank you. and new video of what sandy left behind in rockaway beach. this is the other big story. look at this. residents getting more bad news. a nor'easter expected to hit the area tomorrow with more flooding, high wind and freezing temperatures. david lee miller is live there with the latest. hard to believe, these people are going -- these folks will be picking up the pieces for a long time to come. >> i know. they're bracing for another storm. consider this, gretchen, right now it is 32 degrees here in rockaway beach the it is very cold and this may look like snow. it is not. it is sand. take a look as we roll some tape. we recorded a short time ago. you can get a sense of just how great devastation is out here in the rockaways. streets lined with thousands and thousands of pounds of debris. there are thousands of people without electricity. some 200,000 in this immediate area still in the dark. there are an estimated 40,000 people in the new york
little too warm for this time of year. 91 for your high in phoenix and widespread 80s across southern california. >> steve: great. >> gretchen: thank you. and new video of what sandy left behind in rockaway beach. this is the other big story. look at this. residents getting more bad news. a nor'easter expected to hit the area tomorrow with more flooding, high wind and freezing temperatures. david lee miller is live there with the latest. hard to believe, these people are going --...
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california down to southern california. snow into the higher elevations around lake tahoe. by tomorrow the storm track pulls farther towards the north. knowledge california and specific northwest. that's where all the trouble is and it's going to stay there which is good news for the rest of the country in the travel this week. dave, send it to you inside. >> hey, buddy get in here. we are serving up treats. because, of course, everyone expects turkey, stuffing and cranberry sauce when they come to the table on thanksgiving. why not serve a up a bit of surprise when it comes to deserts. stella parks pastry chef with 310 in lexington. teamed up with gashed and gun magazine to create these twists on traditional deserts. one of the reasons food and wine magazine named you one of the top pastry chefs country. i'm the glue ten free guy. you have glued ten free recipes on blog blog which is brave tart. we are everybody ising up pumpkin pie spice brownies. >> brownie recipe with pumpkin pie spices gives it a nice fall flare. cut it into wedges instead of a square. square on a brow
california down to southern california. snow into the higher elevations around lake tahoe. by tomorrow the storm track pulls farther towards the north. knowledge california and specific northwest. that's where all the trouble is and it's going to stay there which is good news for the rest of the country in the travel this week. dave, send it to you inside. >> hey, buddy get in here. we are serving up treats. because, of course, everyone expects turkey, stuffing and cranberry sauce when...
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peta plans to run this billboard near public schools in nevada, california and idaho asking kids if they wouldn't eat their dog why would they eat a turkey. i see the connection. no, i don't. some parents are are upset. saying the message is too disturbing for kids. >> i don't know. i gave my daughter a couple of turkeys for pets. [ laughter ] >> no. a duck. >> very nice. >> sure. meanwhile, let's turn our attention now to the fiscal cliff that lies ahead and the question of will there actually be compromise in our government. it is needed to avoid that situation where $500 billion in new taxes and government spending cuts are grind. many feel this would send our unemployment rate skyrocketing and growth would go down. >> what you are saying we are where we were two years ago with the same players. >> send us right back into the recession. boehner versus obama. >> give me my life back. having the same conversation and somehow the election didn't move the needle at all. >> it's again, it's the can being kicked down the road and the end of the road is here. >> sounds like it. now, however,
peta plans to run this billboard near public schools in nevada, california and idaho asking kids if they wouldn't eat their dog why would they eat a turkey. i see the connection. no, i don't. some parents are are upset. saying the message is too disturbing for kids. >> i don't know. i gave my daughter a couple of turkeys for pets. [ laughter ] >> no. a duck. >> very nice. >> sure. meanwhile, let's turn our attention now to the fiscal cliff that lies ahead and the...
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and we have live team coverage for you this morning, phil keating is down in california, and we start with mike tobin in columbus, ohio, many still say voters there, mike, will decide of course, who actually wins this election and how it comes back to ohio. >> right. >> certainly does, that's why you have the candidates making the mad final dash in the buckeye state and both of them and the first lady made appearances yesterday. the obama campaign goes into the home stretch enjoying a significant lead in early voting returns, but the romney campaign says it's not as significant as the lead he held over john mccain in this same time frame. they believe they can make up the difference on election day, so, you have both sides going into the home stretch here extremely energized, the ground game, microtargeting of voters, personal contact is unlike anything you've seen in previous campaigns, we caught up with the group, americans for prosperity as they were mobilizing en masse and heading out into the neighborhoods. generally what you see with all of these door knock efforts is a mobiliza
and we have live team coverage for you this morning, phil keating is down in california, and we start with mike tobin in columbus, ohio, many still say voters there, mike, will decide of course, who actually wins this election and how it comes back to ohio. >> right. >> certainly does, that's why you have the candidates making the mad final dash in the buckeye state and both of them and the first lady made appearances yesterday. the obama campaign goes into the home stretch enjoying...
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california state university is pitching a plan charging seniors and extra fee for every class taken after the date they were supposed to graduate. fifth year students, it would add up. it would cost more to retake a class if you fail the first time. they're hoping to motivate student to study hard and put school work first. the board votes this thursday. >> what do you think? >> long time slackers like mike, who lingered around the campus for years. >> i still do that. >> well. >> oddly. >> i enjoyed my nine years at college. >> that would be offensive now. >> it all worked out. >> sure did. >> we're about to run out of time. 20 minutes left with the investigation in the attacks in libya just getting started. was now the right time for david petraeus to resign? what's the white house's role? tucker carlson will have a take on this. >> the so-called fat tax not holding weight. the law that was supposed to save people has an unexpected side effect. it kills business. you can't argue with nutrition you can see. great grains. great grains cereal starts whole and stays whole. see the seam? mor
california state university is pitching a plan charging seniors and extra fee for every class taken after the date they were supposed to graduate. fifth year students, it would add up. it would cost more to retake a class if you fail the first time. they're hoping to motivate student to study hard and put school work first. the board votes this thursday. >> what do you think? >> long time slackers like mike, who lingered around the campus for years. >> i still do that....